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Started by Hickory n Steel, Jan 23, 2025, 05:24 PM

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Hickory n Steel

I just got these Vessel power grip striking cap screwdrivers in from HJE and I am extremely impressed, the ergonomics of the handles are absolutely amazing.



The grip at the largest point is the same as a William's / snapon hard handle,but they offer much better precision fingertip control.
They kind of encompass everything I like about the William's and the old Proto Bet-r-grip.


The William's are great, but large for my hands and I only use them when I really need some torque.
I already looked and they don't offer a stubby #2,so this pair is all I'll be buying.
I have a hammer addiction,  and a 1/4 ratchet addiction, and a pry bar addiction,  and a screwdriver addiction, and well I just have an addiction to hand tools in general.

Hickory n Steel

I also bought this HJE ENDERES 6 in 1 because it's orange ( they have a bunch of colors ).



These are interesting because like the original 4in1 made by the Four in one tool co out of Jamestown NY the Philips are on one bit and the flat blades on the other.
Most these days you get the large sizes of each on one bit and the small sizes on the other.
It's also interesting because the the phillips bit is shorter on top of being a smaller diameter.

This is going to replace the vintage  early four in one that I keep in my small basic repairs tool belt.
I have a hammer addiction,  and a 1/4 ratchet addiction, and a pry bar addiction,  and a screwdriver addiction, and well I just have an addiction to hand tools in general.

Jeffmoss26


Uncle Buck

Those Williams black handle drivers, (twins to the old Snap-on screwdriver line) are my favorites. I have the Williams Phillips head set of those drivers. Their equivalent in straight blade set i own are Snap-on and purchased before they were only offered through Williams. I have found no discernible difference in quality between those drivers either.

The Williams sets of hard handle screwdriver sets is still offered and my hands down favorites of all screwdriver sets on the market today. Hands down, most bang for the buck you can buy.

Closely following the Williams hard handle line are the Proto yellow handle drivers. I have a few of those too and regard those highly as well.

Of what can be found today, the Stanley 100 series screwdrivers are exceptional as well.
Better hold onto something boys cause i'm fixin ta stand on it!

Hickory n Steel

Quote from: Uncle Buck on Dec 13, 2025, 05:20 PMThose Williams black handle drivers, (twins to the old Snap-on screwdriver line) are my favorites. I have the Williams Phillips head set of those drivers. Their equivalent in straight blade set i own are Snap-on and purchased before they were only offered through Williams. I have found no discernible difference in quality between those drivers either.

The Williams sets of hard handle screwdriver sets is still offered and my hands down favorites of all screwdriver sets on the market today. Hands down, most bang for the buck you can buy.

Closely following the Williams hard handle line are the Proto yellow handle drivers. I have a few of those too and regard those highly as well.

Of what can be found today, the Stanley 100 series screwdrivers are exceptional as well.
The Stanley 100 plus are my overall favorite across the board because everything down to the stubby's work well for my hands.
Sadly they're imported now and I believe the phillips is still a weird useless profile.

I like the Williams hard handles for high torque, but they aren't a great general purpose driver because they don't offer great finesse finger turning for my smaller medium hands.

So far I think these Vessel power grip are an absolutely perfect general purpose handle,but I just wish they offered a stubby because they're something I find useful.
The quality on them is amazing
I have a hammer addiction,  and a 1/4 ratchet addiction, and a pry bar addiction,  and a screwdriver addiction, and well I just have an addiction to hand tools in general.

Uncle Buck

Quote from: Hickory n Steel on Dec 13, 2025, 05:37 PM
Quote from: Uncle Buck on Dec 13, 2025, 05:20 PMThose Williams black handle drivers, (twins to the old Snap-on screwdriver line) are my favorites. I have the Williams Phillips head set of those drivers. Their equivalent in straight blade set i own are Snap-on and purchased before they were only offered through Williams. I have found no discernible difference in quality between those drivers either.

The Williams sets of hard handle screwdriver sets is still offered and my hands down favorites of all screwdriver sets on the market today. Hands down, most bang for the buck you can buy.

Closely following the Williams hard handle line are the Proto yellow handle drivers. I have a few of those too and regard those highly as well.

Of what can be found today, the Stanley 100 series screwdrivers are exceptional as well.
The Stanley 100 plus are my overall favorite across the board because everything down to the stubby's work well for my hands.
Sadly they're imported now and I believe the phillips is still a weird useless profile.

I like the Williams hard handles for high torque, but they aren't a great general purpose driver because they don't offer great finesse finger turning for my smaller medium hands.

So far I think these Vessel power grip are an absolutely perfect general purpose handle,but I just wish they offered a stubby because they're something I find useful.
The quality on them is amazing

I wasn't aware Stanley offshored their 100 Series drivers. I don't find it surprising though as Stanley has shown a preference to send their entire product line to China and ensure all they are known for is cheap import crap. So sad seeing a very old quality brand totally reduced to cheap crap.
Better hold onto something boys cause i'm fixin ta stand on it!

Hickory n Steel

Quote from: Uncle Buck on Dec 14, 2025, 12:28 PM
Quote from: Hickory n Steel on Dec 13, 2025, 05:37 PM
Quote from: Uncle Buck on Dec 13, 2025, 05:20 PMThose Williams black handle drivers, (twins to the old Snap-on screwdriver line) are my favorites. I have the Williams Phillips head set of those drivers. Their equivalent in straight blade set i own are Snap-on and purchased before they were only offered through Williams. I have found no discernible difference in quality between those drivers either.

The Williams sets of hard handle screwdriver sets is still offered and my hands down favorites of all screwdriver sets on the market today. Hands down, most bang for the buck you can buy.

Closely following the Williams hard handle line are the Proto yellow handle drivers. I have a few of those too and regard those highly as well.

Of what can be found today, the Stanley 100 series screwdrivers are exceptional as well.
The Stanley 100 plus are my overall favorite across the board because everything down to the stubby's work well for my hands.
Sadly they're imported now and I believe the phillips is still a weird useless profile.

I like the Williams hard handles for high torque, but they aren't a great general purpose driver because they don't offer great finesse finger turning for my smaller medium hands.

So far I think these Vessel power grip are an absolutely perfect general purpose handle,but I just wish they offered a stubby because they're something I find useful.
The quality on them is amazing

I wasn't aware Stanley offshored their 100 Series drivers. I don't find it surprising though as Stanley has shown a preference to send their entire product line to China and ensure all they are known for is cheap import crap. So sad seeing a very old quality brand totally reduced to cheap crap.
I've heard they're still decent since they're made in Taiwan and not China, but some people just automatically assume all Taiwanese tools are good.
I have a hammer addiction,  and a 1/4 ratchet addiction, and a pry bar addiction,  and a screwdriver addiction, and well I just have an addiction to hand tools in general.

Uncle Buck

Quote from: Hickory n Steel on Dec 14, 2025, 03:52 PM
Quote from: Uncle Buck on Dec 14, 2025, 12:28 PM
Quote from: Hickory n Steel on Dec 13, 2025, 05:37 PM
Quote from: Uncle Buck on Dec 13, 2025, 05:20 PMThose Williams black handle drivers, (twins to the old Snap-on screwdriver line) are my favorites. I have the Williams Phillips head set of those drivers. Their equivalent in straight blade set i own are Snap-on and purchased before they were only offered through Williams. I have found no discernible difference in quality between those drivers either.

The Williams sets of hard handle screwdriver sets is still offered and my hands down favorites of all screwdriver sets on the market today. Hands down, most bang for the buck you can buy.

Closely following the Williams hard handle line are the Proto yellow handle drivers. I have a few of those too and regard those highly as well.

Of what can be found today, the Stanley 100 series screwdrivers are exceptional as well.
The Stanley 100 plus are my overall favorite across the board because everything down to the stubby's work well for my hands.
Sadly they're imported now and I believe the phillips is still a weird useless profile.

I like the Williams hard handles for high torque, but they aren't a great general purpose driver because they don't offer great finesse finger turning for my smaller medium hands.

So far I think these Vessel power grip are an absolutely perfect general purpose handle,but I just wish they offered a stubby because they're something I find useful.
The quality on them is amazing

I wasn't aware Stanley offshored their 100 Series drivers. I don't find it surprising though as Stanley has shown a preference to send their entire product line to China and ensure all they are known for is cheap import crap. So sad seeing a very old quality brand totally reduced to cheap crap.
I've heard they're still decent since they're made in Taiwan and not China, but some people just automatically assume all Taiwanese tools are good.

Generally that hold true, but i avoid it as much as possible. I guess that makes me a tool snob.  I prefer to think of myself as just old, set in my ways, and sometimes a bit cranky! 😅
Better hold onto something boys cause i'm fixin ta stand on it!

Hickory n Steel

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Generally that hold true, but i avoid it as much as possible. I guess that makes me a tool snob.  I prefer to think of myself as just old, set in my ways, and sometimes a bit cranky! 😅
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My experience in Taiwanese tools has mostly been with my dad's 30 year old bottom of the barrel junk I was stuck trying to fix my bike with as a kid
Today things have certainly changed and they just about have the market cornered for some types of tools, and I have no problem with buying those.
Most other stuff though I try to avoid because I just don't enjoy buying tools made in the countries where American manufacturing is constantly being outsourced to, if we can make it and I can afford it that's what I buy.
I have a hammer addiction,  and a 1/4 ratchet addiction, and a pry bar addiction,  and a screwdriver addiction, and well I just have an addiction to hand tools in general.